It seems that there is enough lack of natural response that some training will need to be done.

The question is whether attempting to train a submissive- fortunately we are speaking of additional training and brushing up, not a fresh start- is something that can help a dominant to come into practice himself, or if attempting to manage training in two places at once will create a conflict and make things more difficult. Namely our issue is that the kitten, while frequently very good about it, has had an instance or two of reacting quite the wrong way when I raise my voice. A sign for attentiveness. Instead, she tried to shout over me, and that won't do at all.

But, however that might be. It seems to me the best way to deal with a challenge of that sort is to simply go and find ways to turn it to your advantage. It can be a chance for some good practice, and if it will be creating difficulties beyond what should be as well, this will be the best way to find that out and be ready to deal with those in particular- as other issues will have been adressed.

Only, the methods used so far simply won't do for this.

And so, I think it is brainstorming time again.

If only my brain didn't want to nap, I would be fairly pleased. My inexperience can be frustrating, yes, but when I get ideas, I get ideas... and it's usually quite a bit of fun.